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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#26  帖子xiaolu » 10 7月 2019 16:55

波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:42 pm 写道:
xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:34 pm 写道: 如何避免炒粉?

据说有些档次特别高的上手轮儿, 自动帮您避免炒粉。 太便宜的上手轮儿据说就要看您的功夫了, 功夫不到家的话, 整出个比如广东干炒牛河, 星洲炒米,上海粗炒,福建炒粿条,云南过桥米线,四川担担面,兰州拉面,山西刀削面, 北京炸酱面等等等, 都有可能。 :laugh3 :che

什么轮避免炒粉?站长给说说

我说说? 鹅不是用上手轮儿的主啊。 只有一个上手轮儿, 只用过两次。 号称有帮助减少炒粉炸线的功能。鹅也绝对是使用上手轮儿的新手一枚。用这个轮儿也炒过粉, 但炒的不厉害。 我用的是布线。 轮儿是“戏妈呢”(SHIMANO)的 SCORPION DC 101 HG

https://www.amazon.ca/SHIMANO-Shimano-Scorpion-Right-Handle/dp/B01MZ878FC/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAjwmZbpBRAGEiwADrmVXgcFEmkS4RiMGMnKddnafmRhZqakO51_FgdFcAL5uPseDiN8W2NerhoCvkUQAvD_BwE&hvadid=267166675099&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000828&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12982325420715450801&hvtargid=kwd-299058879033&hydadcr=29146_11355051&keywords=shimano+scorpion+dc&qid=1562792337&s=gateway&sr=8-1
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#27  帖子potato » 10 7月 2019 17:01

xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:55 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:42 pm 写道:
xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:
据说有些档次特别高的上手轮儿, 自动帮您避免炒粉。 太便宜的上手轮儿据说就要看您的功夫了, 功夫不到家的话, 整出个比如广东干炒牛河, 星洲炒米,上海粗炒,福建炒粿条,云南过桥米线,四川担担面,兰州拉面,山西刀削面, 北京炸酱面等等等, 都有可能。 :laugh3 :che

什么轮避免炒粉?站长给说说

我说说? 鹅不是用上手轮儿的主啊。 只有一个上手轮儿, 只用过两次。 号称有帮助减少炒粉炸线的功能。鹅也绝对是使用上手轮儿的新手一枚。用这个轮儿也炒过粉, 但炒的不厉害。 我用的是布线。 轮儿是“戏妈呢”(SHIMANO)的 SCORPION DC HG 101

https://www.amazon.ca/SHIMANO-Shimano-Scorpion-Right-Handle/dp/B01MZ878FC/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAjwmZbpBRAGEiwADrmVXgcFEmkS4RiMGMnKddnafmRhZqakO51_FgdFcAL5uPseDiN8W2NerhoCvkUQAvD_BwE&hvadid=267166675099&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000828&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12982325420715450801&hvtargid=kwd-299058879033&hydadcr=29146_11355051&keywords=shimano+scorpion+dc&qid=1562792337&s=gateway&sr=8-1

够贵,不买 :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#28  帖子xiaolu » 10 7月 2019 17:03

论坛里(还有那个 KAYAK 钓鱼群里)的 Young, 应当比较了解您问的这上手轮儿的问题, 比如哪个上手轮儿更合适.....
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#29  帖子Sergeantpepper » 10 7月 2019 17:29

Pungo @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:34 pm 写道: 如何避免炒粉?


:+1
in Flipping and Pitching just thumb the spool all the way when letting line out, no chance of 炒粉 at all
...just practise in the park, never on the lake...that way you'll be 100% concentrated on what you are doing

For casting
try overhead casting to start with
dont cast against the wind
use 1/4oz or above SB, so that you may see better how it travels in the air...lands etc

First adjust the Casting Control Knob
....by the cranking side of the reel, starting from tight to less tight
hold the rod level straight out, thumb down the release clutch, the lure shall drop, when the setting is too tight the lure will stop midway in the air, retrieve, loosen the knob a bit, and try release again, until the lure hits the gound and stops there and no over running without thumbing the spool, you've got the right setting....
this control knob applies static friction to the axle's end to avoid over running at low spool speed, i.e. at the start of each casting and when the lure hits water...lures of different weight requires different setting for the best performance

Then adjust the Brake, magnetic or centrifugal type
the brake applies kinetic friction to the rotating spool during acceleration in the air, and governs it
speeding will result in 炒粉
tight brake is 炒粉 proof but distance discouraging, vise versa
if the casting control knob has been set right, you may start with the brake in mid-setting, then loosen bit by bit for the distance...

when i first tried my 1st generation Chronarch in the park, i did everything right stated above, and i was casting like a Pro, 炒粉? what 炒粉? :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#30  帖子白雪丹枫 » 10 7月 2019 17:35

波澜不惊 @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 2:38 pm 写道:
白雪丹枫 @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 2:27 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 1:21 pm 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500


器材派新秀! :up

逗我玩?就这还器材派?


一开始上手就500,绝对器材派潜力股。我看好你。 :up :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#31  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 17:35

xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:55 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:42 pm 写道:
xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:
据说有些档次特别高的上手轮儿, 自动帮您避免炒粉。 太便宜的上手轮儿据说就要看您的功夫了, 功夫不到家的话, 整出个比如广东干炒牛河, 星洲炒米,上海粗炒,福建炒粿条,云南过桥米线,四川担担面,兰州拉面,山西刀削面, 北京炸酱面等等等, 都有可能。 :laugh3 :che

什么轮避免炒粉?站长给说说

我说说? 鹅不是用上手轮儿的主啊。 只有一个上手轮儿, 只用过两次。 号称有帮助减少炒粉炸线的功能。鹅也绝对是使用上手轮儿的新手一枚。用这个轮儿也炒过粉, 但炒的不厉害。 我用的是布线。 轮儿是“戏妈呢”(SHIMANO)的 SCORPION DC 101 HG

https://www.amazon.ca/SHIMANO-Shimano-Scorpion-Right-Handle/dp/B01MZ878FC/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAjwmZbpBRAGEiwADrmVXgcFEmkS4RiMGMnKddnafmRhZqakO51_FgdFcAL5uPseDiN8W2NerhoCvkUQAvD_BwE&hvadid=267166675099&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000828&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12982325420715450801&hvtargid=kwd-299058879033&hydadcr=29146_11355051&keywords=shimano+scorpion+dc&qid=1562792337&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#32  帖子白雪丹枫 » 10 7月 2019 17:37

我知道有个轮子一般不会炒粉也很好用,可惜太便宜了,不符合楼主的要求,就不推荐给楼主啦! :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#33  帖子一磅黄鲈 » 10 7月 2019 17:39

白雪丹枫 @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 5:37 pm 写道: 我知道有个轮子一般不会炒粉也很好用,可惜太便宜了,不符合楼主的要求,就不推荐给楼主啦! :laugh3

坏银 :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#34  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 18:27

白雪丹枫 @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 5:37 pm 写道: 我知道有个轮子一般不会炒粉也很好用,可惜太便宜了,不符合楼主的要求,就不推荐给楼主啦! :laugh3

求推荐 :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#35  帖子xiaolu » 10 7月 2019 18:53

波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:35 pm 写道:
xiaolu @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 4:55 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:42 pm 写道:
什么轮避免炒粉?站长给说说

我说说? 鹅不是用上手轮儿的主啊。 只有一个上手轮儿, 只用过两次。 号称有帮助减少炒粉炸线的功能。鹅也绝对是使用上手轮儿的新手一枚。用这个轮儿也炒过粉, 但炒的不厉害。 我用的是布线。 轮儿是“戏妈呢”(SHIMANO)的 SCORPION DC 101 HG

https://www.amazon.ca/SHIMANO-Shimano-Scorpion-Right-Handle/dp/B01MZ878FC/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAjwmZbpBRAGEiwADrmVXgcFEmkS4RiMGMnKddnafmRhZqakO51_FgdFcAL5uPseDiN8W2NerhoCvkUQAvD_BwE&hvadid=267166675099&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000828&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12982325420715450801&hvtargid=kwd-299058879033&hydadcr=29146_11355051&keywords=shimano+scorpion+dc&qid=1562792337&s=gateway&sr=8-1

站长是器材派

错。鹅不是器材派,鹅是浪费钱财的弃财派。
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#36  帖子Fishingdaddy » 10 7月 2019 19:03

波澜不惊 @ 10 Jul 2019 13:21 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500

哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#37  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 19:10

:shake
Fishingdaddy @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ 10 Jul 2019 13:21 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500

哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#38  帖子Faron » 10 7月 2019 19:27

Daiwa 新出一款TATULA ELITE P/F (PITCH FLIP)可以关注关注
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#39  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 20:28

Faron @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 7:27 pm 写道: Daiwa 新出一款TATULA ELITE P/F (PITCH FLIP)可以关注关注

好叻
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楼层:#40  帖子HB » 10 7月 2019 20:42

tatula elite + tatula combo 500刀搞定
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

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HB @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 8:42 pm 写道: tatula elite + tatula combo 500刀搞定

我想买st.croix,mojo+tatula,应该也搞得定吧
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#42  帖子wetnose » 10 7月 2019 22:17

yangzw2002 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:47 pm 写道: 卡牙科钓青蛙我觉得悬啊,拉青蛙很大劲,拉空了容易落水

:+1 拉青蛙动作大,拉空了容易落水!
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#43  帖子wetnose » 10 7月 2019 22:19

Fishingdaddy @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ 10 Jul 2019 13:21 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500

哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。

CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3
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楼层:#44  帖子jimi » 10 7月 2019 22:26

wetnose @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 10:19 pm 写道:
Fishingdaddy @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ 10 Jul 2019 13:21 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500

哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。

CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3

烧火棍就行,C T康宝不比烧火棍强? :laugh3
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#45  帖子wetnose » 10 7月 2019 22:33

jimi @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 pm 写道:
wetnose @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 10:19 pm 写道:
Fishingdaddy @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。

CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3

烧火棍就行,C T康宝不比烧火棍强? :laugh3

CT的 康宝大部分是6尺6的MEDIUM,无论是长度和硬度都不适合钓青蛙,但是你非要拿他钓青蛙,也不违法! :laugh3
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楼层:#46  帖子gar » 10 7月 2019 23:05

Sergeantpepper @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 5:29 pm 写道:
Pungo @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:34 pm 写道: 如何避免炒粉?


:+1
in Flipping and Pitching just thumb the spool all the way when letting line out, no chance of 炒粉 at all
...just practise in the park, never on the lake...that way you'll be 100% concentrated on what you are doing

For casting
try overhead casting to start with
dont cast against the wind
use 1/4oz or above SB, so that you may see better how it travels in the air...lands etc

First adjust the Casting Control Knob
....by the cranking side of the reel, starting from tight to less tight
hold the rod level straight out, thumb down the release clutch, the lure shall drop, when the setting is too tight the lure will stop midway in the air, retrieve, loosen the knob a bit, and try release again, until the lure hits the gound and stops there and no over running without thumbing the spool, you've got the right setting....
this control knob applies static friction to the axle's end to avoid over running at low spool speed, i.e. at the start of each casting and when the lure hits water...lures of different weight requires different setting for the best performance

Then adjust the Brake, magnetic or centrifugal type
the brake applies kinetic friction to the rotating spool during acceleration in the air, and governs it
speeding will result in 炒粉
tight brake is 炒粉 proof but distance discouraging, vise versa
if the casting control knob has been set right, you may start with the brake in mid-setting, then loosen bit by bit for the distance...

when i first tried my 1st generation Chronarch in the park, i did everything right stated above, and i was casting like a Pro, 炒粉? what 炒粉? :laugh3


一直没弄明白上手轮两边儿的刹车有什么区别?朋友的一个curoda让我先用着,我知道右边打开盖子可以调整刹车,但是左边那个钮调起来更方便。
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#47  帖子Fishingdaddy » 10 7月 2019 23:38

wetnose @ 10 Jul 2019 22:19 写道:
Fishingdaddy @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
波澜不惊 @ 10 Jul 2019 13:21 写道: 想学上手,钓青蛙,pitching,flipping重草,请推荐性价比好的杆轮组合,预算别超500

哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。

CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3

鹅有根8尺MH伸缩杆,以前买来牵羊拉猫的,看来要拿来试试布线拉青蛙了。
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#48  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 23:39

gar @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 11:05 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 5:29 pm 写道:
Pungo @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm 写道:


:+1
in Flipping and Pitching just thumb the spool all the way when letting line out, no chance of 炒粉 at all
...just practise in the park, never on the lake...that way you'll be 100% concentrated on what you are doing

For casting
try overhead casting to start with
dont cast against the wind
use 1/4oz or above SB, so that you may see better how it travels in the air...lands etc

First adjust the Casting Control Knob
....by the cranking side of the reel, starting from tight to less tight
hold the rod level straight out, thumb down the release clutch, the lure shall drop, when the setting is too tight the lure will stop midway in the air, retrieve, loosen the knob a bit, and try release again, until the lure hits the gound and stops there and no over running without thumbing the spool, you've got the right setting....
this control knob applies static friction to the axle's end to avoid over running at low spool speed, i.e. at the start of each casting and when the lure hits water...lures of different weight requires different setting for the best performance

Then adjust the Brake, magnetic or centrifugal type
the brake applies kinetic friction to the rotating spool during acceleration in the air, and governs it
speeding will result in 炒粉
tight brake is 炒粉 proof but distance discouraging, vise versa
if the casting control knob has been set right, you may start with the brake in mid-setting, then loosen bit by bit for the distance...

when i first tried my 1st generation Chronarch in the park, i did everything right stated above, and i was casting like a Pro, 炒粉? what 炒粉? :laugh3


一直没弄明白上手轮两边儿的刹车有什么区别?朋友的一个curoda让我先用着,我知道右边打开盖子可以调整刹车,但是左边那个钮调起来更方便。

鹅都母鸡有刹车这回事
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#49  帖子波澜不惊 » 10 7月 2019 23:40

jimi @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 10:26 pm 写道:
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Fishingdaddy @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm 写道:
哇,500可以买好几套CT康宝了。

CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3

烧火棍就行,C T康宝不比烧火棍强? :laugh3

崔大师净误导,要么ul,要么烧火棍
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Re: 求推荐-上手杆轮

楼层:#50  帖子Fishingdaddy » 10 7月 2019 23:45

wetnose @ 10 Jul 2019 22:33 写道:
jimi @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 pm 写道:
wetnose @ 周三 7月 10, 2019 10:19 pm 写道:
CT康宝钓青蛙,想想就不靠谱! :laugh3

烧火棍就行,C T康宝不比烧火棍强? :laugh3

CT的 康宝大部分是6尺6的MEDIUM,无论是长度和硬度都不适合钓青蛙,但是你非要拿他钓青蛙,也不违法! :laugh3

鹅有两套CT 7尺M, 上次的鲤鱼就是便宜那套上的。鹅唯一被拉断杆的经历是冰雕婆吃 :laugh3
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