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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#26  帖子RiverRunner » 19 12月 2018 17:56

AngSpec @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 10:51 am 写道:
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RiverRunner @ Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:26 pm 写道:
除了价猛,搞不清有何特点!太公订这轮子总有原因吧。建议peper买,因为他会抚摸一段时间后打拆卖,到时可拣便宜!


:laugh3
煞車lever 大概是主要賣点吧....但全无介绍, 图也欠奉呀


Instead of using a knob or a clicker to engage the drag, it utilizez a level extended all the way from the shaft to the outer rim for users to emgage or disengage the drag.

Same as the level on Kingpin Gen 1 but with drag.

你说的刹车是这个吧?
见左下角和内部机构。
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#27  帖子铁马冰河西门吹雪 » 19 12月 2018 19:10

RiverRunner @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:41 pm 写道:
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铁马冰河西门吹雪 @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:35 am 写道: 我最贵的杆是412块,是我喜欢,又能承受的

太贵了,买不起 :laugh3

铁马冰河西门吹雪有钱,一根相当我两根

你的centerpin一千多块,值钱10个我的鱼竿
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#28  帖子Sergeantpepper » 19 12月 2018 20:13

RiverRunner @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:56 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 10:51 am 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周二 12月 18, 2018 5:47 am 写道:

:laugh3
煞車lever 大概是主要賣点吧....但全无介绍, 图也欠奉呀


Instead of using a knob or a clicker to engage the drag, it utilizez a level extended all the way from the shaft to the outer rim for users to emgage or disengage the drag.

Same as the level on Kingpin Gen 1 but with drag.

你说的刹车是这个吧?
见左下角和内部机构。


那大概是个clicker吧
我怀疑Rainmaker 所标榜的lever actuated drag 只是个clicker 不是drag
单一lever 只能控制on /off, 不能作无断式調較drag 的鬆緊, 那可是个扭掣的工作吧 :fishb
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#29  帖子AngSpec » 19 12月 2018 23:12

Sergeantpepper @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 11:23 am 写道: 长知識了 :shake 就怕你不冒泡 :fishb 小声說,我曾以為那黄色衣领边是lever....sheesh



AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:51 am 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周二 12月 18, 2018 5:47 am 写道:

:laugh3
煞車lever 大概是主要賣点吧....但全无介绍, 图也欠奉呀


Instead of using a knob or a clicker to engage the drag, it utilizez a level extended all the way from the shaft to the outer rim for users to emgage or disengage the drag.

Same as the level on Kingpin Gen 1 but with drag.


FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#30  帖子Sergeantpepper » 20 12月 2018 15:54

AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 11:23 am 写道: 长知識了 :shake 就怕你不冒泡 :fishb 小声說,我曾以為那黄色衣领边是lever....sheesh



AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:51 am 写道:

Instead of using a knob or a clicker to engage the drag, it utilizez a level extended all the way from the shaft to the outer rim for users to emgage or disengage the drag.

Same as the level on Kingpin Gen 1 but with drag.


FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?

:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#31  帖子白雪丹枫 » 20 12月 2018 17:04

Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 11:23 am 写道: 长知識了 :shake 就怕你不冒泡 :fishb 小声說,我曾以為那黄色衣领边是lever....sheesh





FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?

:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧


貌似不是。drag还是拿来溜鱼的,只是钓鱼时不engage,等中鱼后才engage。

float reel理论上是漂钓时阻力越小越好,没理由平白无故地加个drag去增加阻力。
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#32  帖子AngSpec » 20 12月 2018 18:45

Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周三 12月 19, 2018 11:23 am 写道: 长知識了 :shake 就怕你不冒泡 :fishb 小声說,我曾以為那黄色衣领边是lever....sheesh





FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?

:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧



The drag for a float reel serves the very same purpose of that in spinning/baitcasting reel.

The maximum drag on the float reel on the market is around 15lb which is way more than lake-run steelheads.

However, if you were to fish sea-run West coast steelhead, you would need 15+ lb leader in order to fight the much stronger current & the fish.
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#33  帖子AngSpec » 20 12月 2018 18:48

白雪丹枫 @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 4:04 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm 写道:

FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?

:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧


貌似不是。drag还是拿来溜鱼的,只是钓鱼时不engage,等中鱼后才engage。

float reel理论上是漂钓时阻力越小越好,没理由平白无故地加个drag去增加阻力。


you are 99.9% correct.

However, there are situations where you want to maintain your bait at the strike zone for a longer period of time, a drag would make your setup flow slower to stay in the strike zone.
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#34  帖子Sergeantpepper » 20 12月 2018 19:23

AngSpec @ Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:45 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm 写道:

FYI, you cannot adjust the drag on the fly .... u must use Allen key to open the cap, remove the cap, adjust the drg, put the cap back, allen key screws back, ASSUMING you have not dropped any screws ....

U get my point?

:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧



The drag for a float reel serves the very same purpose of that in spinning/baitcasting reel.

The maximum drag on the float reel on the market is around 15lb which is way more than lake-run steelheads.

However, if you were to fish sea-run West coast steelhead, you would need 15+ lb leader in order to fight the much stronger current & the fish.


I dunno :laugh3
...but if one needs to open up the reel to make drag adjustment that sounds strange, unlike fly reel with drag which comes with drag disk, drag control knob etc., pretty much like spinning/baitcasting reels

I might be wrong, but that "drag" still looks like a STRONG clicker to me, with non-continuous adjustable spring force
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#35  帖子白雪丹枫 » 20 12月 2018 19:35

Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 6:23 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:45 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧



The drag for a float reel serves the very same purpose of that in spinning/baitcasting reel.

The maximum drag on the float reel on the market is around 15lb which is way more than lake-run steelheads.

However, if you were to fish sea-run West coast steelhead, you would need 15+ lb leader in order to fight the much stronger current & the fish.


I dunno :laugh3
...but if one needs to open up the reel to make drag adjustment that sounds strange, unlike fly reel with drag which comes with drag disk, drag control knob etc., pretty much like spinning/baitcasting reels

I might be wrong, but that "drag" still looks like a STRONG clicker to me, with non-continuous adjustable spring force


这个要打开轮子调drag的设计确实非常奇怪,不能象飞钓轮一样加个旋钮来连续可调吗?应该是设计上有障碍吧?

好在需要调整的次数不多,不算大问题。

象飞钓轮,在钓大西洋三文和钢头时,主要还是靠手来控制溜鱼,因为这两种鱼中钩时冲得很厉害,drag的阻力稍大便可能断线。一般调飞钓轮drag,就是调到猛一扯线,飞钓轮不松出来即可。我用的飞钓轮,最大的drag是1.5磅,我没觉得有什么问题。
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#36  帖子AngSpec » 21 12月 2018 00:08

Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 6:23 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:45 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 2:54 pm 写道:
:shake
这类”drag" 看来除了能提供float 的流速控制外,还能微助收竿时把spool畧鎖一下。。。溜魚时所需的那种drag还是有懶palming吧



The drag for a float reel serves the very same purpose of that in spinning/baitcasting reel.

The maximum drag on the float reel on the market is around 15lb which is way more than lake-run steelheads.

However, if you were to fish sea-run West coast steelhead, you would need 15+ lb leader in order to fight the much stronger current & the fish.


I dunno :laugh3
...but if one needs to open up the reel to make drag adjustment that sounds strange, unlike fly reel with drag which comes with drag disk, drag control knob etc., pretty much like spinning/baitcasting reels

I might be wrong, but that "drag" still looks like a STRONG clicker to me, with non-continuous adjustable spring force


take a good look.

you will be surprised
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#37  帖子AngSpec » 21 12月 2018 00:10

白雪丹枫 @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 6:35 pm 写道:
Sergeantpepper @ 周四 12月 20, 2018 6:23 pm 写道:
AngSpec @ Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:45 pm 写道:


The drag for a float reel serves the very same purpose of that in spinning/baitcasting reel.

The maximum drag on the float reel on the market is around 15lb which is way more than lake-run steelheads.

However, if you were to fish sea-run West coast steelhead, you would need 15+ lb leader in order to fight the much stronger current & the fish.


I dunno :laugh3
...but if one needs to open up the reel to make drag adjustment that sounds strange, unlike fly reel with drag which comes with drag disk, drag control knob etc., pretty much like spinning/baitcasting reels

I might be wrong, but that "drag" still looks like a STRONG clicker to me, with non-continuous adjustable spring force


这个要打开轮子调drag的设计确实非常奇怪,不能象飞钓轮一样加个旋钮来连续可调吗?应该是设计上有障碍吧?

好在需要调整的次数不多,不算大问题。

象飞钓轮,在钓大西洋三文和钢头时,主要还是靠手来控制溜鱼,因为这两种鱼中钩时冲得很厉害,drag的阻力稍大便可能断线。一般调飞钓轮drag,就是调到猛一扯线,飞钓轮不松出来即可。我用的飞钓轮,最大的drag是1.5磅,我没觉得有什么问题。



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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#38  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 09:54

No need to open it up, can use allen key to adjust your drag there.
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#39  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 09:56

Or you can order a different model rainmaker so you can adjust the drag anytime you want.
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#40  帖子白雪丹枫 » 21 12月 2018 09:57

creditdrifter姜太公 @ 周五 12月 21, 2018 8:54 am 写道: No need to open it up, can use allen key to adjust your drag there.


Have to bring an Allen key when go fishing. :laugh3 Not a big deal though!
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#41  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 09:59

They're not a clicker, they're a drag same like spinning reel
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楼层:#42  帖子白雪丹枫 » 21 12月 2018 10:00

creditdrifter姜太公 @ 周五 12月 21, 2018 8:56 am 写道: Or you can order a different model rainmaker so you can adjust the drag anytime you want.


More convenient. Pay more$$$?
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#43  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 10:04

白雪丹枫 @ Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:57 am 写道:
creditdrifter姜太公 @ 周五 12月 21, 2018 8:54 am 写道: No need to open it up, can use allen key to adjust your drag there.


Have to bring an Allen key when go fishing. :laugh3 Not a big deal though!


You only need to adjust ones, 95% of time you dont adjust your drag when you fighting the fish
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楼层:#44  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 10:15

Angling spec and Rainmaker have the smoothest drag in the market.
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楼层:#45  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 10:20

And ber reel too but please check the price :roflmao
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creditdrifter姜太公 @ Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:20 am 写道: And ber reel too but please check the price :roflmao

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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#47  帖子Sergeantpepper » 21 12月 2018 12:25

多謝AngSpec 和太公两位解惑釋疑,学习了 :shake
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#48  帖子RiverRunner » 21 12月 2018 13:17

原来以为anglespec与rainmaker是一家。长见识了
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楼层:#49  帖子白雪丹枫 » 21 12月 2018 13:34

RiverRunner @ 周五 12月 21, 2018 12:17 pm 写道: 原来以为anglespec与rainmaker是一家。长见识了


桑大师快买几个屯着! :laugh3
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Re: 现在有人用这个rain maker马?

楼层:#50  帖子creditdrifter姜太公 » 21 12月 2018 14:04

RiverRunner @ Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:17 pm 写道: 原来以为anglespec与rainmaker是一家。长见识了



They're two different company.
angling specialties make angling spec.
Canada fishing reels make rainmaker
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