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钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right Stick

帖子发表于 : 09 11月 2013 20:49
wetnose
这是我在网上偶然看到的,希望对大家选鱼竿有帮助,具体哪一个厂家的不重要,重要的是每一根鱼竿要有不同的用途,这样你才可以尝试不同的presentation。我本人比较喜欢SHIMANO,ST CROIX 和Fenwick Rods。
Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right Stick

Anglers are always looking for the ultimate walleye rod. At many seminars anglers will approach me and ask; “What one rod do you prefer when going after walleyes”? I usually tell them that I like at least six different types of walleye rods. More important is that fact that I also team up my rods with reels that provide balance and I think Shimano has the balancing act down to a science.

The problem that many anglers have is they like one or two types of presentation and they continue to purchase rods that will only allow them to do these two types of presentations. For example, how many of you are jig only fisherman? Or how many of you are only trollers for walleyes? If so, you are limiting yourself to the amount of fish that you can catch on any given day. If you make you livelihood fishing, like I do, you can’t afford to stay with one pattern all day long. Fish move, and their activity might decrease so you have to vary your presentation.

The rods that I carry with me are jigging rods, rigging rods, bottom bouncer rods, planner board rods, and slipbobber rods. I prefer the Shimano™ Rods, mainly because they have all the properties in rods that I like and the design of the rods helps me in my own presentations.

The Clarus jigging rods that I carry with me are 6 footers. One of these rods is a medium action rod that allows me to vertically jig breaklines and weedlines. The other rod is the same length, but is a light action rod. This allows me to pitch jigs and with the light tip gives me more of a feel as the jig drops through the fish column. These rods have cork handles for sensitivity and good grip even with wet hands. The reel seat unscrews and allows me to attach Shimano Stradic™ or Stella™ spinning reels and not lose the sensitivity of the cork handles. The material that these rods are made of is high modulus graphite. In fact the jigging, rigging and bottom bouncer rods are all made of graphite.

My Clarus rigging rod is 6’10” and it has an extra fast tip. The last 6 to 20 inches loads up real fast and allows me a super sensitive rod when the walleyes pick-up the live bait. These rods are so sensitive that I can feel the walleye on before it has even lifted the walking sinker off the bottom. Again, the rods have the Portuguese cork handles, for security and sensitivity, and the graphite transmits the lightest touch to the angler's fingertips.

The Shimano Talora/Tekota™ trolling, downrigger, planer board and deadstick rods are longer and are a combination of fiberglass and graphite. They range in lengths of 7’ 0” to 10’ 6”. An angler wants to get the line away from the wake of the boat and into a strike zone where spooky walleyes are when they hear or see a boat approaching. The rod is constructed of a double inner layer of T Glass with an inner and outer spiral of high modulus graphite. This gives the rod more backbone and ability to take the shock from a hooked fish on no stretch line. The handles on these rods are made of EVA foam, because the rod holders have a tendency to tear up the cork handles. The balance with this rod comes when you put on a Calcutta™ or a Catala™ bait casting reel with Dartainium drag and Super Stopper™ features to reel in those monster fish.

My Symitar™ bottom bouncer rods are 6’5” to 7’ 0” in length and are the casting variety. One of the rods has a light tip to be used with finesse bottom bouncers. Using bottom bouncers in 1/2 to 3/4 ounce demands a fast light tip. Again, here I want the most sensitive rod possible. I want to be able to feel the bottom bouncer tick the rock and the stumps on the bottom of the lake. I also want to be able to feel the walleye strike the spinner and have a positive hook set. Again, the balance for this type of presentation will come with the added Calcutta™ in the 250 model.

Last of all are my Compre™ slipbobber rods. The medium action with an extra fast tip in the 7’0” length allows me to fish over even the tightest cover. Plus the rods length gives me a sweeping hookset and springs or loads up fast to allow deep hook penetration. Currently, all these rods are at your local sporting goods store and you can select the proper rod or “tool” for the presentation. But, don't just stick to one rod for all your walleye fishing, you have to remember the balancing act when it comes to being on the water this year.

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 09 11月 2013 20:52
wetnose
“many anglers have is they like one or two types of presentation and they continue to purchase rods that will only allow them to do these two types of presentations. ”
我也是属于这一了的钓鱼人,同样的鱼竿买的太多,竿子的种类不够齐全。

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 09 11月 2013 21:16
wetnose
下次我船钓碧古,也带这几种竿子,应该可以有不同的presentation了。
1:Fenwick Eagle GT Spinning - 2 Piece 2-8LB
2: St Croix Eyecon Walleye Spinning Rods Model ECS70MLF 4-10LB
3: Shimano Compre Drop Shot Spinning Rod 6'8" Medium 6'8" 5-10lb
4: Shimano Compre worm & jig spinning rod 6'8" 8-14LB
5: Shimano Compre Spinning rod CPS70M 6'6" 8-17lb

因为我从来不TROLLING,所以竿子就不需要了 ,哈哈!希望这个帖子可以起到抛砖引玉的作用,大家一起来讨论。

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 09 11月 2013 22:29
D君
根据不同钓点,选择不同杆子,会有事半功倍的效果
杆子有资金的话,可以考虑gloomis Walleye, st croix legend walleye.
物有所值,实用来讲,认为第一是fenwick elite walleye , 然后st croix eyecon,,其他abu vendentta,shimano compre,okuma,fenwick hmg很多选择了
一般JIgging的话,6'3长度最好,
Rigging的话,6'9左右
slipping poper一般都长些7"4,8,10
bottom bouncer的话,eyecon做的很不错
好的碧古杆子,backbone不用说,整个杆子balance 跟杆TIP很重要,碧古咬口很特别,所以杆子灵敏性必须要求很高
一般选择FAST, 特殊情况选XF
目前我们三人团队,集体采用的是fenwick 的Elite walleye新款, 一节6'3 jigging medium xf杆子,life warranty。 这个jigging杆子可以说是fenwick碧古的代言杆子. Tip 做的挺牛比。闸口也较合适。st croix eyecon曾经是2011年icast评的不错杆子,当今性价比不高,还有很多人担心质量,因为大部分墨西哥造的。现在他trolling的杆子做的不错,Eyecon感觉有点沉,一年的warranty.
大家没事可以去walleye central看看,很多有价值的文章

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 08:55
Kevin_C
非常欣赏湿鼻大哥和D君兄弟的钻研精神。
上周五试用了一下D君提到的FENWICK竿,感觉各项指标都很好,和基鲁米斯的碧古竿没有明显差别,
性价比一流,而且是Life Warrenty,D君眼光独到!

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 10:51
D君
Kevin_C 写道:非常欣赏湿鼻大哥和D君兄弟的钻研精神。
上周五试用了一下D君提到的FENWICK竿,感觉各项指标都很好,和基鲁米斯的碧古竿没有明显差别,
性价比一流,而且是Life Warrenty,D君眼光独到!

总是被哥哥们。。。赞赞赞。。。。哈哈,脸大不是我的错
我要像阿华同志学习,谦虚低调才是

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 11:41
qianbinjeff
D君 写道:
Kevin_C 写道:非常欣赏湿鼻大哥和D君兄弟的钻研精神。
上周五试用了一下D君提到的FENWICK竿,感觉各项指标都很好,和基鲁米斯的碧古竿没有明显差别,
性价比一流,而且是Life Warrenty,D君眼光独到!

总是被哥哥们。。。赞赞赞。。。。哈哈,脸大不是我的错
我要像阿华同志学习,谦虚低调才是


已经开光啦。

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 11:57
D君
qianbinjeff 写道:
D君 写道:
Kevin_C 写道:非常欣赏湿鼻大哥和D君兄弟的钻研精神。
上周五试用了一下D君提到的FENWICK竿,感觉各项指标都很好,和基鲁米斯的碧古竿没有明显差别,
性价比一流,而且是Life Warrenty,D君眼光独到!

总是被哥哥们。。。赞赞赞。。。。哈哈,脸大不是我的错
我要像阿华同志学习,谦虚低调才是


已经开光啦。

哈哈,下水未开光,你们一起
主席杆多的不知道用那个

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 11:59
iamfisherman
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Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 12:38
wetnose
几个爱钓碧古和想钓碧古的都来了,哈哈!

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 13:04
wetnose
538就是20区。Open Seasons Jan. 1 to Mar.1 & the 1st Sat. in May to Dec. 31, 这就是说可以一直钓到明年的3月1日。大牌可以拿4条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM),小牌可以拿2条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM).

D君 wrote:
xiaolu wrote:
D君 wrote:
Kevin_C wrote:
Hastings,538 碧古有得钓。

K主席说的是
hastings碧谷快结束了,538的碧谷已经上来了,小兄弟要是真上瘾了,可以去走走

此话怎讲? 538 的屁股大概是属于不同的区, 继续开放, 还可以继续摸一炮或两炮?

538好像是20区,碧谷还可以拿一条超尺寸的,貌似可钓到春天
这个可以有,你问问湿鼻哥哥,都在酝酿着呢。。

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:20
J阎
弱弱的问下。饵能摔多远跟杆子的长度有关系?还是跟杆子的韧度有关系呢?

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:31
D君
J阎 写道:弱弱的问下。饵能摔多远跟杆子的长度有关系?还是跟杆子的韧度有关系呢?

跟饵重量,杆长度,韧度都有关系
还有甩饵的姿势,方法也很重要

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:32
xiaolu
wetnose 写道:538就是20区。Open Seasons Jan. 1 to Mar.1 & the 1st Sat. in May to Dec. 31, 这就是说可以一直钓到明年的3月1日。大牌可以拿4条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM),小牌可以拿2条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM).

其中一条可以大于 24.8INCHES(63CM):

那么, 另外的 3 条(或 1 条), 可以是小于或等于 24.8INCHES(63CM) 的任何尺寸 (比如没有 35CM 到 50CM 之类的限制)? 如果是这样的话, 争取搞:

一条大于 24.8INCHES(63CM), 加上:
三条(或一条)等于(正好是) 24.8INCHES(63CM)

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:36
wetnose
如果竿子都是ML 4-10LB的韧度,7’的就会比6‘的饵甩的远一些;如果竿子都是7’的长度,一根是4-10LB,一根是8-17LB, 甩同样的饵,4-10LB的竿子甩的远一些。
J阎 写道:弱弱的问下。饵能摔多远跟杆子的长度有关系?还是跟杆子的韧度有关系呢?

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:39
wetnose
副司令的理解是对的,一条大于63CM,另外三条可以是62.999999,这是开关玩笑,一般我不会拿太接近的,因为万一量大不太准,麻烦。 35CM 到 50CM 之类的限制是17区的。
xiaolu 写道:
wetnose 写道:538就是20区。Open Seasons Jan. 1 to Mar.1 & the 1st Sat. in May to Dec. 31, 这就是说可以一直钓到明年的3月1日。大牌可以拿4条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM),小牌可以拿2条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM).

其中一条可以大于 24.8INCHES(63CM):

那么, 另外的 3 条(或 1 条), 可以是小于或等于 24.8INCHES(63CM) 的任何尺寸 (比如没有 35CM 到 50CM 之类的限制)? 如果是这样的话, 争取搞:

一条大于 24.8INCHES(63CM), 加上:
三条(或一条)等于(正好是) 24.8INCHES(63CM)

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:45
xiaolu
wetnose 写道:副司令的理解是对的,一条大于63CM,另外三条可以是62.999999,这是开关玩笑,一般我不会拿太接近的,因为万一量大不太准,麻烦。 35CM 到 50CM 之类的限制是17区的。
xiaolu 写道:
wetnose 写道:538就是20区。Open Seasons Jan. 1 to Mar.1 & the 1st Sat. in May to Dec. 31, 这就是说可以一直钓到明年的3月1日。大牌可以拿4条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM),小牌可以拿2条,其中一条可以大于24.8INCHES(63CM).

其中一条可以大于 24.8INCHES(63CM):

那么, 另外的 3 条(或 1 条), 可以是小于或等于 24.8INCHES(63CM) 的任何尺寸 (比如没有 35CM 到 50CM 之类的限制)? 如果是这样的话, 争取搞:

一条大于 24.8INCHES(63CM), 加上:
三条(或一条)等于(正好是) 24.8INCHES(63CM)

不完全正确.
是说其中一条可以大于63CM. , 对吧? 注意是"大于". 这说明, 剩下的可以是等于(对, 是"等于")63CM, 换句话说, 可以 比62.9999999CM 再多出 0.000001CM...哈哈.

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 14:55
wetnose
鹰文的原话是这样滴:等于63CM可以有,但保不住你量的是63.00000,他量个63.00001,哈哈!
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Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 15:04
xiaolu
wetnose 写道:鹰文的原话是这样滴:等于63CM可以有,但保不住你量的是63.00000,他量个63.00001,哈哈!

嗯. 我没去过538, 那里现在摸屁股是否靠谱? 有的摸没?

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 22:23
J阎
买个杆子都这么多学问。俺真是欠教育啊

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 10 11月 2013 23:04
D君
J阎 写道:买个杆子都这么多学问。俺真是欠教育啊

哥哥最好别接受教育,不然小心荷包啊。。。。

Re: 钓碧古用什么样的鱼竿好 Walleye Fishing Rods --Fish with the Right S

帖子发表于 : 11 11月 2013 08:40
J阎
D君 写道:
J阎 写道:买个杆子都这么多学问。俺真是欠教育啊

哥哥最好别接受教育,不然小心荷包啊。。。。

所以决定了买个摔的远的杆子就好。俺不是高手能钓鱼的杆都是好杆